August 8, 2023

Today, we sit down with Brandon Hertel, Software Developer for Vidoori. We begin the interview by expanding on some of the flexibility the cloud provides and how a federal agency can use this. The focus of the discussion is coming to terms with the expression “cloud native.”
The federal government has been told to move to the cloud since Vivek Kundra famously coined the phrase “cloud first” fifteen years ago. Unfortunately, the “how” was not included in the initiative.
In an attempt to achieve assigned goals, we have seen agencies “lift and shift” on premises applications to the cloud. We have seen many instances of “transition” instead of “transformation” of the technology.
An analogy here is you have a broken-down Fiat in your garage, you move to California and put the broken-down Fiat Spyder in your new west coast garage. Different garage, same malfunctioning automobile.
Why not take advantage of some the unique capabilities the cloud provides in order to leverage the cloud?
"(Cloud Native) It is a methodology, which seeks to take advantage of the benefits of the cloud, the elasticity to demand scaling, your ability to sort of cost effectively use these machines on an a la carte basis."
Brandon Hertel, Vidoori Tweet
We begin the interview by talking about concepts that are part of being cloud native. Brandon Hertel defines ideas like DevSeOps, Cloud Native Open Standards, micro services, and containers.
From his perspective, a federal agency can take an application, move to the cloud, and then include these concepts in order to achieve the goals of scalability, flexibility, and agility.
This is an interview that gives you a better understanding of some of the concepts of “cloud native.”
If you enjoyed this article, you may want to listen to Ep. 81 Improving Automation in Complex Systems

John Gilroy
John Gilroy appeared on National Public Radio in Washington, D.C. for 25 years. He has written 523 technology columns for The Washington Post. Currently, John is an award-winning lecturer at Georgetown University. Forgot to mention — he has recorded over 1,000 episodes.
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