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Ep. 168 Zero Trust: What Does the Doctor Prescribe?

July 30, 2024 

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John Kindervag is the father of Zero Trust; Greg Touhill is the general of Zero Trust; today, we sit down with Dr. Zero Trust, Chase Cunningham.

Dr. Chase Cunningham has a solid background for his opinions. He served in the military, has a PhD., several patents, and has written over ten books.

We begin the discussion with praise from Randy Resnick, the Director of the DoD Zero Tryst Portfolio Management Office. The DoD is not the only federal area with large systems to concern themselves with.

The challenge in making a transition to Zero Trust is extant in the civilian agencies. For example, LaMonte Yarborough from the HHS indicated he must manage systems to try to make a transition to Zero Trust.

His Cunninham experience includes running a red team, so we pivoted the conversation about AI. Malicious actors or red teams can use AI-based tools like Dork GPT to create new ways to attack systems.

"you are seeing a lot of progress there, Randy Reznik is doing a pretty good job at leading the team and moving things to the next step – I just finished reading the entire NDAA, it was like 1100 pages. Obviously, I didn’t read word for word, but I checked through and Zero Trust was mentioned about six times "

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Today’s far-ranging discussion oversees many topics that federal leaders would be interested in., including cybersecurity skills, compliance, and managing legacy systems.

Technology periodicals all have headline articles on the lack of talent in the world of cyber security. Chase mentioned a school in Virginia called CyberNow Labs. It is a “trade” school that can prepare individuals quickly for a job stopping malicious actors. He mentioned several students are getting job offers before they leave.

When the topic of quantum was introduced, comments were made that, from a cybersecurity perspective, it is wiser to concern yourself with basics like identity and patching rather than worrying about a future quantum event.

If you enjoyed this episode, then you may want to listen to Episode 133 Champions of Innovation or Captives of Compliance ?

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